This is the text from the opening hour of the When Night Falls 24 hour chat, 2008.


Joined on November 1, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Note: In this chat, "Me:" refers to Chris Betcher


gaild: yes


Mobbsey: Loud and clear


gaild: hard to wear headphones with a Halloween costume on!


Mobbsey: BRB - breakfast


DaveC: http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/Moderators+-+Things+To+Do


gaild: intro by web or voice????


gaild: who is first?


Lorna: @gaild where are you from?


gaild: Ottawa


gaild: and you?


gaild: should say ottawa, canada ... oops


gaild: I know you!!!!


PeggyG: HI Lorna! Great to hear your voice when I signed in!!


gaild: absolutely .... I couldn't find your email address anywhere!!!


Lorna: @gaild st catharines Ontario


PeggyG: Rushing around and haven't plugged in my mic.


gaild: ??? is that your email address????


Lorna: lornacos@gmail.com


sylvia martinez: happy halloween!


gaild: thank you .... perhaps manana...


PeggyG: sorry I missed the intro. Are we talking about anything specific or K12online across the board?


gaild: are all the north americans in costume?


Sarah Sutter: I was in costume all of the school day - back to comfy clothes at this point.


PeggyG: Hi Sylvia Great to see you


KarenJanowski: Durff, aren't we good enough for your!


KarenJanowski: Hey, Beth!


sylvia martinez: hey peggy!


KarenJanowski: Hi, Peggy, Sarah, Sylvia


KarenJanowski: thanks, durff


PeggyG: Hi KarenJan--what a great gathering to kick off When Night Fall!


sylvia martinez: does this really go 24 hours!?


Me: yes


sylvia martinez: crazy


Jennifer McCaleb: too many trick or treaters...I'll have to come and go for the next hour or so


PeggyG: The green screen secret was amazing! I really want to learn how to do that. Got the link but haven't had time to check it out.


KarenJanowski: hey, Alice!


PeggyG: Trick or treaters are converging in AZ now too


mrsdurff: I want to buy Pinnacle for 8th grade


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Hi KAren


Me: I just got back from the fancy dress store from hiring a costume for a party tonight


PeggyG: that would be really interesting to see principal newsletters in Wordle


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Hi Beth Hi Sarah


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): HI Durff


Sarah Sutter: Hey there!


gaild: possible technical tip .... do you have to sign in as a moderator?


PeggyG: Hi Alice!


DaveC: Welcome Alice.


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): HI Peggy G


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Thanks DaveC


mrsdurff: Songhai


PeggyG: I've been really aware of the language "doing computers" this week. Would love to hear people use different language than doing Voicethread, doing blogs, etc.


mrsdurff: he was at Educon


mrsdurff: secret=paperless except the teacher


mrsdurff: he can have paper


PeggyG: I think Lorna and Matt had some great suggestions in their preso about getting parents involved. Maybe she can talk about that tonight


gaild: yes


PeggyG: My practice hasn't changed yet but I definitely plan to share a few of these presentations in various PD sessions to inspire thinking and motivate change.


Beth Lloyd: Hi Alice...just back from trick or treaters at the door!


KarenJanowski: Great to see you again, Beth!


Lorna: never just a parent


KarenJanowski: @sheila_A just dropped by trick or treating at my house!


lizbdavis: Hi everyone


KarenJanowski: HI, Liz


Beth Lloyd: Hey Karen! I have my days right!


PeggyG: Hi Liz! Great to see you!


KarenJanowski: congrats!


KarenJanowski: Liz did you see my twit about driving by Belmont Hill?


PeggyG: People keep asking me which presos were the best and I'm having a hard time picking!!


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Hi Lizbdavis!


lizbdavis: @Karen Yes. Sorry I missed you.


KarenJanowski: This is so exciting to be part of the first hour of the 24 hour When Night Falls!


lizbdavis: Hi Alice


KarenJanowski: @liz - can I drop in another time? would that work at your school?


mrsdurff: fantastic gail


PeggyG: Good for you gaild!! You're off to a great start!


mrsdurff: who else?


DaveC: Gaild, you need to release the mic


Me: someone is holding their mic button down


Beth Lloyd: @PeggyG where can I find the link to the green screen secret?


gaild: it has been wonderful!!!


gaild: yes ... i know a few translators too....


PeggyG: Looking for the green screen link--just a minute


lizbdavis: I think I will have the moderator link soon.


lizbdavis: Chris I will DM it to you.


gaild: my talk button seems to be sticking...


sylvia martinez: bye everyone, have to run to the market!


sylvia martinez: i'll drop by later on


PeggyG: Phoenix AZ


gaild: no more NOT!


PeggyG: still hot in Phoenix--94 degrees today


Beth Lloyd: right!


PeggyG: Yes share the parent portal!


gaild: yes


Lorna: www.portal.ourschool.ca


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): No way!!!


PeggyG: I loved the video in the parent presentation of Matt's students in Washington DC. That would definitely hook parents.


gaild: LOL .... who needs to get a life?


Beth Lloyd: NO, not yet!


lizbdavis: I have lots of them in my aggregator.


PeggyG: Not even close on all the videos. But they're all on my ipod and I'm working my way through


Beth Lloyd: I liked the range of styles...


Beth Lloyd: lots of different ways to present!


gaild: Lorna - I'm there .... having a bit of a bandwidth slowdown too perhaps


PeggyG: We're having a State Standards committee meeting next week and I plan to use several of the presos to share and discuss during their working lunch.


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): As hard as it was for presenters, I kike the 20 minute session length


KarenJanowski: keep getting interrupted by trick or treaters


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): like


Me: try it with http: in front


PeggyG: think the link needs the http: to be clickable


Lorna: http://www.portal.ourschool.ca


Beth Lloyd: I even liked some of the 10 minute ones


gaild: that is better, no - but not a hot link


KarenJanowski: @bethlloyd did a great presentation - Changing Disabilities to Possibilities


KarenJanowski: yes, the 10 - 20 minutes presentations were a very effective length


mrsdurff: Evidently the neighbor kids are using up the bandwidth again - sigh


PeggyG: @KarenJanowski-Talke about that-I haven't seen it yet


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Great time length to sahre with teachers


Sarah Sutter: Perfect for short tech sessions - great intros to discussions.


Jennifer McCaleb: back from trick or treaters for a few minutes...crazy here right now


Beth Lloyd: you're too kind!


PeggyG: Beth-why did you choose Voicethread as your tool of choice?


Me: If you havn't done so already, can you add yourself to the map at http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=12.554564,-35.507812&spn=168.87031,360&z=1&msid=100025614784655674079.0004579462d62e598e42d


PeggyG: yes can hear fine


Mobbsey: Yep


mrsdurff: yes


lizbdavis: Yes


Beth Lloyd: can anyone hear me?


Me: yes we can hear you'


lizbdavis: We can hear you Beth


Me: let go of the mic


DaveC: Beth, you'll need to release the mic.


PeggyG: are you using any of the online text to audio tools?


Me: Beth...


KarenJanowski: I use them all the time


mrsdurff: unclick the mic


gaild: yes ... I have discovered something new today!


Me: Oh Be-e-e-e-e-eth


PeggyG: @Karen--talk about which ones you like and why


Jennifer McCaleb: i WAS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT TEXT TO audio also. which ones are the easiest to use?


Me: its working fine gail


PeggyG: computers have a way of keeping us humble


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): @chrisB The link for the map goes to a Presidential Historic Map?


KarenJanowski: @jennifer, @ Peggy - check them out here - http://udltechtoolkit.wikispaces.com/Free+text+to+speech


PeggyG: How resourceful Chris!!


lizbdavis: I have some people working on it too.


charbeck: email me the moderator for the morning chris.harbeck@gmail.com


gaild: part of the problem may be that we are all multi-tasking and several people may be having "compatibility" issues


DaveC: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=12.554564,-35.507812&spn=168.87031,360&z=1&msid=100025614784655674079.0004579462d62e598e42d


DaveC: That's the link to the map...


PeggyG: I have seen the tool kit--I'd love to hear you talk about some you really like and why


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): I think the tom tom are going as other moderators are now asking about priviledges


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Thanks DaveC


PeggyG: didn't see that preso yet Durff


KarenJanowski: durff - didn't get your question


Me: try that one Alice... http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=12.554564,-35.507812&spn=168.87031,360&z=1&msid=100025614784655674079.0004579462d62e598e42d


KarenJanowski: you were breakng up


Me: hmmm, that's the same link


PeggyG: who's presentation Durff?


KarenJanowski: didn't see that one yet - do you recommend it?


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Strange, this time I had K12Online option.


lizbdavis: I really liked Alice, Bob and Cheryl's keynote


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Probably me


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): @lizbdavis Thanks so much


KarenJanowski: i've heard great things about your presentation Alice, haven't seen it yet


PeggyG: Yes lizbdavis! It was fun to watch the process used as well as hear the content from Alice, Bob,Cheryl


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): We had so much fun making it. Really was a conversation.


mrsdurff: it looked fun!


mrsdurff: good qt


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Hand hold with students


mrsdurff: i've done both


mrsdurff: don't own Flips


PeggyG: The flip video cam really encourages spontaneous capturing of conversations!


Alice Barr (SEEDlings):


mrsdurff: my students do own editing


PeggyG: It was fun watching people using flip cams during Ignite Phoenix this week. They were everywhere


mrsdurff: want to have students use outsourced video clips this year


gaild: Karen: q for you - we have exchanged comments on autism - have you ever tried using pivot with these students???


mrsdurff: what is pivot?


Me: http://my.plc.nsw.edu.au/mod/forum/view.php?id=9057


KarenJanowski: @galid - no, what is pivot?


charbeck: @durff outsource??


Beth lloyd: goblins and ghosts took over my computer...back on now!


mrsdurff: get video from another country


charbeck: thx


mrsdurff: from partner classrooms


gaild: Moderator q - is elluminate an Adobe product?


mrsdurff: no


Me: No gail


KarenJanowski: if at least two teachers from every school watched the videos from K12 online conference, would school every be the same?


Lorna: @Chriswhat software was used to transfer files and edit


KarenJanowski: ever be the same?


mrsdurff: Adobe Connect is their conferencing thing


Sarah Sutter: @karenjan What if all teachers watched two videos . .


Lorna: moives and moblie phone


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): For Flip?


Lorna: as well with Alice and flip cameras


KarenJanowski: @sarah - oohhhh the possibilities!


mrsdurff: and sarah?


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): We used macs


Lorna: and i movie


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): We used Isquint, and Quicktime


Sarah Sutter: Using flip, basic digital cams movie setting, and sony handycams much less so since the others are so easy.


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Then Bob meshed the three viseos using Final Cut


Lorna: both


Sarah Sutter: iMovie mostly - I've got quicktime pro for some quickie edits.


lizbdavis: How did you judge the videos?


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): The flip videos give the filmer some real freedom


PeggyG: http://flatclassroomproject.wikispaces.com/Keynote this is the link with the explanation about how to do the green screen--done by Dean Shareski


Sarah Sutter: I've used Final Cut mostly for my own work, but we don't have licenses for kids.


mrsdurff: two vids there


Lorna: thanks


mrsdurff: my kids learned there


Beth lloyd: Thanks doe the link, Peggy


mrsdurff: now they want me to buy them pinnacle


KarenJanowski: @galid - what is pivot?


PeggyG: That sounds great--green world plans


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Nice! This big global issues are important


mrsdurff: that is a really innovative idea


Me: http://my.plc.nsw.edu.au/course/view.php?id=447 that was the info we gave the kids...


gaild: Stick figure creator .... we'll communicate after...


Me: you should ahve guest access...


mrsdurff: for this poor teacher it is expensive


PeggyG: Have you seen the Carbon Rally website? encourages people to accept regular challenges for reducing carbon--very educational with lots of great information AND motivation


KarenJanowski: do you have a link?


PeggyG: http://www.carbonrally.com/


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): @PeggyG Thanks!


Me: Liz, we had a committee of teachers judge the videos based on the published criteria, and I've also added the movies to a Moodle forum so that others can comment and feedback on their work


PeggyG: I joined the AZ Carbon Rally team and am very excited about the challenges I've participated in--one was reducing printing, one was reducing cooliing by 2 degrees every day


Lorna: @gaild what is you blog url


charbeck: give kids freedom


charbeck: they will produce wonderful stuff


charbeck: we hold them back


charbeck: facilitate not educate


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Yes @charbeck


PeggyG: Awesome Moodle site, Chris!!


charbeck: love your stuff alice


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): @charbeck Thank you so much. Love yours too!


gaild: Karen: just google it.... or follow up with me by email


charbeck: or just to live Durff


charbeck: agree totally


mrsdurff: uh?


mrsdurff: what did i miss?


charbeck: they need this to get through life


PeggyG: I thought the global classroom project presos were really informative--Kim Cofino/Jen Wagner and Vicki Davis/Julie Lindsay!


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): @Durff haven;t finished yet!


KarenJanowski: good question, durff - still have so many to view


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): So many good ones, which is great!


PeggyG: Such a great point! I wish I had these web 2.0 tools when I was a principal!!


gaild: Lorna - I am putting up a video for you at www.ld-technokids.com ... definitely we need to talk ..... I have to sign out, * have many people, mostly younger than me, in my house!!!!


Me: the 20 minute time limit was a big improvement... (but tough to make!)


lizbdavis: Please add your thoughts about this hour of When Night Falls to the wiki here: http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/12+AM+GMT Especially since we haven't been able to record the session.


Me: dave


DaveC: @Chris, your video was one that I showed to staff. You have a very welcoming video personality.


lizbdavis: Thanks. I moderate in ten minutes.


Me: thanks dave


laura Deisley: trying to get ahold of dean...sheryl didn't have the right link


PeggyG: it has been amazing to see how much content can be packed into 20 min. presos! The practical suggestions really help teachers and administors have the courage to try.


Me: Hi Laura


charbeck: has anyone heard me???


charbeck: perhaps I am too quiet


KarenJanowski: I'm feeling like I should leave this conversation and go watch more presentations!


Me: yes Chris, we heard you come through


charbeck: thanks Chris


KarenJanowski: liz, you are breaking up


charbeck: phew


PeggyG: I also loved the backchanneling preso by Scott Snyder. He demonstrated some valuable uses for high school and did comparisons of the various online tools for backchannelling.


KarenJanowski: anyone else have that problem with liz?


mrsdurff: not here Karen


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): @karen Can hear her fine


mrsdurff: her audio is fine here


Beth lloyd: Yes, I also liked the backchanneling presentation.


ehelfant: audio fine here


PeggyG: I'm hearing fine!


mrsdurff: i hear you


Beth lloyd: Liz, we can hear!


laura Deisley: i hear you fine, liz!


mrsdurff: i talk to myself too


laura Deisley: I hear you fine Liz...


Allanahk: ROFL Liz


mrsdurff: we practiced tracking the speaker today


mrsdurff: with eyes


Beth lloyd: I loved how those quiet kids were given a voice through back channeling!


Me: If I did another preso I'd try to make sure it worked in both video AND audio formats... so much easier to listen to on the drive to work... finding 40 x 20 minutes is tough!


PeggyG: Yes Beth! Scott was very persuasive!


KarenJanowski: ok, it's my computer, i keep losing her


charbeck: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=280 is a must


Me: that's a hard question.... since many of us haven't seen that many


mrsdurff: great qt!


lizbdavis: Great question.


Lee Kolbert: I have to catch through my iTunes feed.


Susanvg: still so many to watch


Allanahk: @betchaboy- something you have to see to understand- some wouldn't work on audio only


PeggyG: I loved Sylvia's preso on Gaming in Education too!! It would be a great one to show staff to help them understand pros/cons and alternatives. The power comes from students creating their own games!


DaveC: YES!


Susanvg: Yes - I loved that one too


KarenJanowski: loved that one!


KarenJanowski: and I agree about the voice


charbeck: loved the cathederals


Susanvg: and a great voice


Susanvg: just didn't like the background music


PeggyG: the personal stories and experiences have been so valuable! outstanding modeling of use of tools to tell a story!


lizbdavis: Please add your favorite session to the wiki http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/12+AM+GMT


KarenJanowski: leaving to go watch a few more presos


PeggyG: I can't pick a favorite


Alice Barr (SEEDlings): Great point@charbeck a nice mix this year


lizbdavis: In the morning?


lizbdavis: Yikes


PeggyG: the sugar high may be what keeps people going for 24 hours


Allanahk: Was down for doing a session later but going out so have removeds myself from the wiki


Jennifer McCaleb: bye...kids just came home and I've got to go...i'll be back in the morning. thnaks everyone.


mrsdurff: very excellent job!!


lizbdavis: clap clap clap


PeggyG: will someone be saving the chats for all of these sessions?


PeggyG: fantastic kickoff to the culminating activity


Me: Thanks everyone... will be back a bit later.


PeggyG: I'm thinking we can save it each time as an hour ends--that will work won't it?


Me: But hey, I'll see you on Twitter anyway


PeggyG: Thanks Chris!!!