Joined on November 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM --------------------- PeggyG: 7 hours into this 17 hours to go --------------------- Me: Hi again --------------------- Charlene Chausis: are you staying through Peggy? --------------------- PeggyG: welcome back Julie --------------------- PeggyG: I would love to Charlene but I'm starting to fade from sitting for so long. --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): yes --------------------- Charlene Chausis: loud and clear Julie --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): loud and clear. --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I think so... --------------------- PeggyG: go ahead Julie --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): not sure but it sounds good --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I think that is what we did last year --------------------- PeggyG: there you go!!! all set --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): jen didn't do that and i didn't either so i hope that isn't a problem --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I moderated one session last year --------------------- PeggyG: I think the audio can be separated later. --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): I don't need to be moderating.. just hanging out right now --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): i appreciate you stepping in Jose --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I'm hanging with you guys for a little bit too --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): y'all can de-moderate me anytime you like --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): or not.. --------------------- PeggyG: every time I think I'm leaving someone new steps up (like Julie) and I can't pull myself away!! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I don't have a mic... so moderating is a bit hard from here --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): both. --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): yes --------------------- PeggyG: both Julie--I don't have a mic --------------------- Charlene Chausis: If I were to get a mic, I might wake my hubby --------------------- Charlene Chausis: lol --------------------- PeggyG: we've had some rousing conversations over the past 6 hours! one session almost completely on cell phones, one session on k12online/notk12online, inspiring presos, presentation styles, etc. --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): yes --------------------- Charlene Chausis: this from Dean: http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/10/31/disrupting-professional-development/ --------------------- PeggyG: great Julie--love hearing how you've done this! --------------------- PeggyG: how did you choose which presos you would watch together? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Julie, are you inviting others to attend virtually? --------------------- Amanda: How do you move it beyond the 'willing'? --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): is it a captive audience? --------------------- PeggyG: would they be uncomfortable if it was ustreamed? then we could join them in the conversation --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): grat an Aussie! --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): } --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Link for 21st Century Learners http://elearning.qataracademy.wikispaces.net/21C_Learners --------------------- PeggyG: can we join your wikispace? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): @Peggy this is our school wiki....I invite you to join our Ning however --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://elearning4life.ning.com --------------------- PeggyG: Great! Thanks. --------------------- PeggyG: How do you introduce the concept of personal learning networks? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): that's OK! --------------------- Amanda: good the PLP wil give me as an early adopter some mentoring --------------------- Charlene Chausis: that's what's great about PLNs ... we no longer have to be islands of innovators... we have our PLNs for support --------------------- PeggyG: sadly many of the new grads don't have that life-long learning attitude! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): true here --------------------- PeggyG: For every course I taught I would prepare a Flickr Toy motivation poster with all of their photos and the caption "Attitude is Everything"--I feel so passionately about that!!! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: what photos do you use? --------------------- PeggyG: thanks! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: thanks for sharing your Ning Julie, I joined --------------------- PeggyG: I take digital photos of each student (to help me learn their names) and use those on the poster. I give them the digital camera and ask them to take pics of each other --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://elearning.qataracademy.wikispaces.net/Digital+Footprints --------------------- Amanda: We're looking at establishing a school ning. Have a staff one --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): very poetic --------------------- PeggyG: Fantastic! What a valuable resource Julie! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): thanks Peggy --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): our staff Ning is limping along....I love the international focus --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Julie, you mentioned teaching behind closed doors... you would be surprised how often this occurs in a buidling ... --------------------- Charlene Chausis: how can schools allow teachers NOT to collaborate and develop common curriculum across grade levels --------------------- Charlene Chausis: no mic... sorry --------------------- Charlene Chausis: --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://elearning4life.ning.com/ --------------------- Charlene Chausis: what time is it for you now Julie and Amanda? --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): and what day --------------------- Amanda: 5:22pm --------------------- Amanda: Saturday --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): 10.22am in Doha --------------------- Charlene Chausis: it's 2:22 in the morning here in Illinois --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I took a nap --------------------- Charlene Chausis: and woke up at Midnite so I could co-moderate with Kim --------------------- Amanda: Realised I've been here 5 hours --------------------- Charlene Chausis: wow!! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/7+AM+GMT --------------------- Amanda: avoiding report card writing --------------------- Charlene Chausis: what is a brickbat? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: the term brickbat sounds violent --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): it does, I agree! --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): good night everyone --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): don't forget the conference eval survey: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pDNM0C92-LStpCoRxGKSBHw&hl=en --------------------- Charlene Chausis: nite Kim.. thanks for staying up --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): good night kim.... good catching you online again --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): no problem, take care all --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): tc jose --------------------- Amanda: Night Kim --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): gn peggy --------------------- Moderator (Moderator (Kim Caise)): gn amanda --------------------- mrslwalker: will do in just a moment --------------------- mrslwalker: not plugged in yet! --------------------- PeggyG: sorry! didn't mean to leave so abruptly! 2nd computer crash of the night! --------------------- Amanda: That's been talked about a lot today -certainly popular --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): bouquet to voicethreads and essential questions --------------------- PeggyG: Curious how you chose the sessions you would watch together --------------------- PeggyG: I agree about the theoretical/research sessions for getting started with a group --------------------- Charlene Chausis: yes, bouquet to the voicethread discussions!! --------------------- mrslwalker: not quite --------------------- mrslwalker: nearly there --------------------- PeggyG: teachers tend to prefer the really practical ideas for how they can makes these things work in a classroom --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Peggy, have you seen terry Freedmans keynote for Flat Clsasroom...? --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): britbats not sure... I am still trying to find the feel of the strands themselves. --------------------- Amanda: @PeggyG -Totally agree! --------------------- PeggyG: Yes I have--I am a good friend of Terry's and follow almost everything he writes and says! I admire and respect him greatly!! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Just sharing this as an aside as terry freedman uploaded it yesterday --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): perhaps that's a britbat not understanding or strands not clear in their focus or purpose --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://flatclassroomproject2008.wikispaces.com/Keynote --------------------- PeggyG: I really liked his description of his proces and involvement as a "judge" of the flat classroom videos --------------------- PeggyG: he always does--spend a lot of time on his projects! he really wants them to make a difference! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): They strands seem to have a catchy phrases but especially in the getting started strand I don't necessarily feel that a "newbie" would feel it at their level. --------------------- PeggyG: my favorites so far have been the global collaboration project presos --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): exactly --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I agree Jose, but the "Basic Advanced Training" sessions are still there as a springboard --------------------- PeggyG: that's when it's so valuable to watch these things together with others so you can explore the ideas more --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): yes Peggy I agree! --------------------- PeggyG: as soon as I finish watching one I'm really impressed with I can't wait to share it with someone else! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): I know I have listened to some presentations atleast two or three times this week. --------------------- Charlene Chausis: so, if you were just starting a group at your school, you might pick a few session from 2006, 2007, etc --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): another bouquet 20min is a lot more digestable compared to the longer presentations from before --------------------- PeggyG: I agree Charlene! I still go back to sessions from both years! Have several favorites!! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): and very focused --------------------- PeggyG: the 20 min sessions really lend themselves to discussions without feeling overwhelmed by content --------------------- Charlene Chausis: and, one 20 min session can be watched/digested along with lunch --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): especially for LAN parties --------------------- Charlene Chausis: or a class period meeting... exactly!! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Pizza and PD!! --------------------- PeggyG: I am still one of those people who can't believe all of the incredible resources we can access for free on the internet!!! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: we do "lunch and learn" presentations at our school --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): I like that LL Lunch and Learn --------------------- Charlene Chausis: so this format will allow us to include a session from k12 online --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I have previously used the TED talks for a similar PD session --------------------- PeggyG: I sooo appreciate that k12online folks (and really web 2.0 folks) are so willing to be transparent with their learning and share both what works and what doesn't. I have learned so much through that sharing! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Bytes of Learning --------------------- PeggyG: the combination of food and PD is a winner!! even better if you can do it in someone's living room in comfy clothes --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): sure... Getting started sessions not at "newbie" level --------------------- PeggyG: I think it really helps newbies to watch these together with someone else. --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): For us North America Folk it's a great time of year --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): what about Australia? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Comments were stated earlier about moving it a bit later... closer to our winter break --------------------- Amanda: Hard for me as it's the bust end of our school year. --------------------- PeggyG: I think this is a great time of year to do it although there will always be conflicts with things like parent/teacher conferences, end of term grading, etc. --------------------- Amanda: shuld have been 'busy' --------------------- Charlene Chausis: which would be just after the Christmas holiday --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): moving closer to winter will compromise Australia/NZ --------------------- Amanda: can see I've been here for 5 hours - can't spell LOL --------------------- PeggyG: I think we need to avoid the time change weekend because it gets so confusing to people --------------------- Charlene Chausis: actually though, we are in our 2nd grading period, so any earlier would not have been as good for us --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I depending on this page a lot: http://k12onlineconference.org/docs/k12online2008schedule.html --------------------- PeggyG: I agree Jose. There is too much information on the home page. We are mainly going straight to the schedule page to find presos of interest --------------------- Charlene Chausis: the colors helped me --------------------- PeggyG: exactly Charlene! --------------------- PeggyG: the time zone links are essential! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): same here.. the shedule. was the place to go --------------------- PeggyG: it isn't just you Julie--this came up in earlier conversations tonight and all seemed to be in agreement. --------------------- Amanda: no - we're too busy wrapping up the year --------------------- Charlene Chausis: the idea that the session are available perpetually helps --------------------- Charlene Chausis: so I don't really "have" to attend now --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I can learn on my own time --------------------- Charlene Chausis: what I would miss though is the opportunity to discuss with the presenters --------------------- Charlene Chausis: in the chats or elluminate sessions --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I missed them too --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): vickie did a great job --------------------- Amanda: no I missed them too --------------------- PeggyG: both fireside chats were really valuable!! The keynote chat was disappointing because the keynote didn't make it --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Stephen didn't make it? --------------------- PeggyG: Vicki was awesome as always!!! she really know how to facilitate discussions to keep them focused and meaningful! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): really? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: where are they archived? --------------------- PeggyG: Vicki spoke for you too Julie!!! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): I know they were recorded --------------------- PeggyG: sure! see if you can find them --------------------- Charlene Chausis: maybe they'll come later --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/ --------------------- PeggyG: but that may not include the fireside chats --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): Well.. it's been great but I have to call it a night.. I am visiting at my sister in law's. Great connecting with you all. --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/When+Night+Falls+Summary+Page --------------------- Charlene Chausis: thanks Jose ... --------------------- Amanda: Bye Jose --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): thanks Jose --------------------- PeggyG: bye Jose --------------------- PeggyG: It's been great having you here! --------------------- Moderator (JoseRodriguez): take care all bye. --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Kim has already posted notes from our earlier discussion http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/5+AM+GMT --------------------- Charlene Chausis: and I noticed the chat pasted into another --------------------- PeggyG: yes I see the fireside chats archived on the schedule page --------------------- Charlene Chausis: link Peggy? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/7+AM+GMT --------------------- Charlene Chausis: this one has the chat http://whennightfalls08.wikispaces.com/1+AM+GMT --------------------- PeggyG: it's on the schedule page--there's a link for the archived fireside chat right below the session --------------------- helenotway: thanks --------------------- PeggyG: it's still too early to answer that question Julie because I still have so many presos to listen to. --------------------- helenotway: Oh, sorry no mic --------------------- Charlene Chausis: ok. I see it now Peggy. thanks --------------------- Amanda: Hi Helen Yay another Aussie --------------------- helenotway: Hi Amanda --------------------- PeggyG: I would personally like to see When Night Falls happen about a week after the conference so we have more time to view things before we chat --------------------- PeggyG: Which backchannel are you referring to? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: or maybe push the Fireside chats later --------------------- PeggyG: Scott Snyder? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=330 --------------------- PeggyG: Yes! That was an awesome preso!!!! --------------------- Amanda: No. sorry. I'm still learning how to engage in a back channel --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I think having this forum is great for sharing what we have learned --------------------- Amanda: Which is why I should watch it! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: and then I would like to talk to the presenters later --------------------- helenotway: Melbourne, Victoria --------------------- helenotway: Yep --------------------- PeggyG: It is one of my favorites because he really explains why the backchannel is valuable as a learning tool, recommends various tools but prefers coveritlive, and shared examples of how he used it with his HS students including videos of student comments. Great preso! --------------------- helenotway: Strathmore --------------------- helenotway: near Essendon --------------------- Amanda: @Helen are you on a long weekend? --------------------- helenotway: Working Monday --------------------- PeggyG: he used CoverItLive for class discussions, lecture responses, assignments, etc. --------------------- PeggyG: he gives you a chart comparing the various tools and explains why he chose CoverItLive --------------------- helenotway: I'm an Ultranet Coach - elearning --------------------- helenotway: AP next year - eLearning role --------------------- PeggyG: it really broadened my understanding of backchannelling and he provides evidence that it engages students who were previously un-engaged! --------------------- helenotway: Yes Assistant Principal --------------------- PeggyG: good idea! --------------------- PeggyG: I hope you find it as valuable as I did! --------------------- helenotway: I'll swap computers --------------------- Amanda: wish we had a position for you --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I'd think you'd be snatched up quickly!! --------------------- PeggyG: Amanda-the way he uses backchannelling in his HS class is very different than what we typically experience in something like a ustream backchanel where the conversation jumps all over the place and can often be off task and chatty --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I guess it depends also on where you want to live --------------------- PeggyG: Julie do you want to stay in that area? --------------------- PeggyG: yes definitely more focus and everyone has a voice! --------------------- Amanda: @PeggyG - I'll watch it later. Imagine it would be hard to use with my little ones but maybe middle years --------------------- Charlene Chausis: and the back channel allows the instructor to review the learning --------------------- Charlene Chausis: come to U.S.!! --------------------- PeggyG: I understand Julie! I remember seeing your photos and video around New Years? when you moved to Qatar --------------------- PeggyG: I think Voicethread would work better with the younger kids --------------------- Amanda: They're still hen pecking --------------------- PeggyG: yes, they can draw --------------------- PeggyG: it is a form of back channel but more structured--they can plan their responses and take their time --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): drawing...interesting idea Peggy --------------------- Amanda: @PeggyG - you have me intrigued now --------------------- PeggyG: they can circle things on a photo and draw arrows as they explain what they think a picture is about--great language development! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): what software for that Peggy? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: I agree about VT for the younger student. And, I can be worked on inside or outside of class --------------------- PeggyG: they can create their own storybooks and other students can comment on them page by page. Grandparents and parents LOVE them!!! --------------------- PeggyG: yes Charlene! great point! don't always have to be done at school --------------------- Amanda: oops - just realised you're talking about VT , not back channel stuff...Yes VT is cool, kids love it! --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Peggy, does your school have the ed.voicethread subscription? --------------------- helenotway: Back on --------------------- Charlene Chausis: for $2 per student --------------------- PeggyG: I'm not at a school but I purchased the voicethread pro account so I could use all of the features of ed.voicethread. Since it's free for educators all should definitely subscribe! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): yes we hear you --------------------- Charlene Chausis: Educators pay a one time $10 fee --------------------- PeggyG: can hear fine --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): quite different to the traditional view of an AP --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): new school? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): area? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): oh --------------------- PeggyG: FYI- I have compiled a bunch of Voicethread resources on a wikispace for a workshop we held and there is a great PDF you can download about signing up for a free K-12 educator account. http://aztea.wikispaces.com/Westside_Workshops-07-08 (scroll down past the podcasting resources to find VoiceThread) --------------------- Charlene Chausis: how big is Qatar Acad? # of students? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: fully what? --------------------- Charlene Chausis: IV? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): IBO --------------------- helenotway: yes --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): what makes/models are you looking at? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): for mini-laptops --------------------- Charlene Chausis: thanks for the link Peggy... great VT resource! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Asus EE PC 1000 - with 6-cell battery? --------------------- PeggyG: feel free to explore and use anything you like! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): yes, longer...about 4 hours --------------------- PeggyG: what fun decisions for you to make!!! --------------------- Amanda: @PeggyG - thanks for link - looks like I've got lots to explore! --------------------- helenotway: That would be good --------------------- PeggyG: will your students be able to take their notebooks home too Julie? --------------------- PeggyG: probably a good idea to let them own them after 3 years because they are already outdated computers at that point and require more maintenance --------------------- helenotway: Great --------------------- PeggyG: yes and they will continue to use them!! --------------------- Amanda: My classwould dearly love their own laptops - not something my school can afford --------------------- helenotway: So much!! --------------------- PeggyG: great question! --------------------- Amanda: Hubby has just brought dinner out to me, so I can stay in this great chat! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): you are lucky Amanda! --------------------- PeggyG: I think Chris Lehmann is an excellent resource for ways to implement PD! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): I agree Peggy --------------------- PeggyG: Wow Amanda!!! He's a keeper!!! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): what is peer coaching exactly? how does it work? --------------------- PeggyG: I also really like some of the student teaching models like Gen Yes where students teach and support teachers with the use of technology. They're doing some amazing things! --------------------- Amanda: my kids see some adults as their peers - coz they're on the same page as them! --------------------- PeggyG: the kids learn such valuable interpersonal and leadership skills in the process --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Is peer coaching 1 on 1? Does everyone have a peer coach? --------------------- PeggyG: I saw some Gen Yes student presentations last year (their program was set up by Sylvia Martinez) and both kids and teachers raved about it! --------------------- helenotway: absolutely --------------------- PeggyG: one of the schools I worked in used peer coaching by grade levels --------------------- PeggyG: Gen Yes is the program where Sylvia Martinez is President --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Dennis Harper...? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): open plan...special architectural design? --------------------- PeggyG: At ASU-West (AZ State Univ) they started introducing web 2.0 and social networking to the faculty by asking them to take one of their traditional units/lessons and deliver it using a web 2.0 tool, write it up and share it with the rest of the faculty. It has been really successful and they compiled everything on a Google doc/Google Site --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): yes ..... --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): good! --------------------- Amanda: oh - I am so jealous. Trying to do what I do in a traditional classroom space is hard --------------------- PeggyG: I helped with the workshop and one of my colleagues developed her lesson using VoiceThread. She did a great job with it! --------------------- helenotway: yes, i know Anne --------------------- helenotway: Hawksdale P - 12 --------------------- helenotway: yes --------------------- helenotway: Vic --------------------- Amanda: it's certainly not Qld! --------------------- PeggyG: oh no--banning web 2.0??? don't they get it???? --------------------- PeggyG: back to the old days of didactic teaching?? --------------------- Amanda: maybe opposite here - Cath Ed schools are doing more than Ed Qld --------------------- helenotway: yes please --------------------- helenotway: phone ringing --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://flatclassrooms.ning.com --------------------- Amanda: are there projects for little ones? --------------------- PeggyG: you and Vicki have done an incredible job of making those resources available to educators around the world!! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): good for you Amanda --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): I was just going to mention Maria Knee! --------------------- PeggyG: Amanda I think you could do a flat classroom project with little ones. Are you familiar with Kathy Cassidy's grade one program? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): yes, we want to develop 'flat classroom' projects with primary classes!! --------------------- PeggyG: Kathy, Maria and a number of the primary teachers seem to be developing an incredible network of classrooms--even though I don't think they consider them flat classroom projects. --------------------- PeggyG: Amanda, were you one of the teachers in the last webcast on EdTechTalk with Maria? --------------------- Amanda: yes that was me! --------------------- PeggyG: You were awesome!! Sorry I didn't make the connection earlier. Your class blog was fantastic! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): the current projects are....but all it needs is an idea...and then we can help you get it together if you need our help --------------------- PeggyG: I got to meet quite a few of the Australian educators at NECC this past year and was so impressed with the study tour they got to participate in! --------------------- Amanda: no - didn't go this year...madly saving!! --------------------- Amanda: That would be great --------------------- Amanda: $10,000 --------------------- PeggyG: it was amazing to hear about all of their experiences and they formed so many new networks and colleagues in the process! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Amanda what is your twitter ID? --------------------- Amanda: marragem --------------------- PeggyG: that's frustrating but it's so important to take those transitional steps --------------------- PeggyG: blogging in a private space is still better than no blogging --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://elearning4life.ning.com --------------------- Amanda: @PeggyG - yes. Have just got a Flip but can't use it the way we'd like --------------------- PeggyG: you all know you can save the chat and whiteboard, right? --------------------- PeggyG: know what you mean Amanda--you have to take pics of the back of the heads --------------------- Amanda: yes blogging has connected us in ways we'd never have imagined --------------------- Amanda: sorry - we're the 2 M Gems - hence the gems! --------------------- PeggyG: save the whiteboard as a pdf so you can open it later--I learned the hard way --------------------- Amanda: sure that's ok --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): speak? --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Amanda, mike is off.... --------------------- Moderator (laura Deisley) to Chris Betcher, laura Deisley, Julie Lindsay: Julie--Just stopped in (4:30 a.m. here) to see what is happening--looks like you've stayed over to moderate this hour. Thank you for that....can I help in any way? --------------------- PeggyG: there she is --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay) to laura Deisley: Thanks Laura, things are going well --------------------- PeggyG: you sound like an old pro Amanda!!!! --------------------- PeggyG: not "old" but veteran, experienced!! --------------------- Moderator (laura Deisley) to Chris Betcher, laura Deisley, Julie Lindsay: I"ll send a note out reminding the next group of moderators. Again, thank you! --------------------- Amanda: Thanks Peggy ! --------------------- Amanda: we're lucky that we can have an inquiry -based focus --------------------- PeggyG: that was so interesting to hear!! Thanks Amanda! --------------------- PeggyG: yes you are lucky! so many teachers I know have given up on inquiry to focus on teaching to the test --------------------- Amanda: no --------------------- PeggyG: I agree about Australia--UK and NZ too! --------------------- Amanda: yet our government would have us adopting the US model --------------------- PeggyG: don't do it!! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): haha ...Peggy! --------------------- PeggyG: it looks good on paper and that's it! --------------------- PeggyG: the entire curriculum is affected and teaching the whole child is out the window! --------------------- Amanda: I'll still keep doing what I'm doing ! --------------------- PeggyG: yes we need THINKERS and problemsolvers and collaborators!!!!! --------------------- Amanda: yes!!!! --------------------- PeggyG: NOT people who can read scripts and cue cards! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): http://www.ascd.org/portal/site/ascd/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.459dee008f99653fb85516f762108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=d5b9c0fa1a493266805516f762108a0c_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_d5b9c0fa1a493266805516f762108a0c_journaltypeheaderimage=%2FASCD%2Fimages%2Fmultifiles%2Fpublications%2Felmast.gif&javax.portlet.prp_d5b9c0fa1a493266805516f762108a0c_viewID=article_view&javax.portlet.prp_d5b9c0fa1a493266805516f762108a0c_journalmoid=27c382b861c8c110VgnVCM1000003d01a8c0RCRD&javax.portlet.prp_d5b9c0fa1a493266805516f762108a0c_articlemoid=011482b861c8c110VgnVCM1000003d01a8c0RCRD&javax.portlet.prp_d5b9c0fa1a493266805516f762108a0c_journalTypePersonalization=ASCD_EL&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=token&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=token --------------------- PeggyG: hahahaha --------------------- PeggyG: that made my day!!!! --------------------- Amanda: you did warn us!! --------------------- PeggyG: it says not available --------------------- Amanda: says no longer exits --------------------- PeggyG: maybe they moved it?? it may be in your cache --------------------- Amanda: it's come open now Yay! --------------------- PeggyG: save it as a PDF --------------------- PeggyG: it redirected me back to the ASCD home page --------------------- PeggyG: what's the title of the article? I'm a member of ASCD so maybe I can find it --------------------- PeggyG: Rigor Defined by Tony Wagner --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): Rigor Defined by Tony Wagner --------------------- Moderator (laura Deisley) to Chris Betcher, laura Deisley, Julie Lindsay: Thanks to Julie for helping out!! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): thanks Laura! --------------------- Moderator (Julie Lindsay): thank you to everyone for the conversation --------------------- Amanda: I'm going to have to go. Would love to stay but must have 'family time' now. --------------------- Amanda: Thanks Julie --------------------- PeggyG: still looking for the article Julie-Thanks for an awesome conversation!! --------------------- Moderator (laura Deisley) to Chris Betcher, laura Deisley, Julie Lindsay: Thanks Julie!